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Production ready alternative to snapd

Wekan/General · February 15, 2020 at 1:51am

Production ready alternative to snapd

Wekan / General · February 15, 2020 at 1:51am (Edited 4 years ago)

Hi,

while I would love to install wekan on my server I am struggling on which method I should go for. Snapd is unfortunately not an option because my VPS does not support snapd installations. I have installed docker on my server but within the docs of wekan its sounds like its not a good solution for production deployments. Could someone please tell me which route I should go for or are they any good alternatives?

I am also not a fan of Univention, Sandstorm or paid services.

Regards

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February 15, 2020 at 2:33am

Lauri Ojansivu@xet7

Team

2:33am

Inside strict sandbox of Snap Wekan code can not access files outside of /var/snap/wekan/common directory

2:33am

Code is set as read only in snap

2:33am

etc safety features

2:35am

Usually on some VPS if snapd does not work, it could have some outdated virtualization tech like OpenVZ with old version of linux kernel, or some other limited kernels that OVH or Kimsufi uses

2:35am

There is no reason to use such outdated and old server tech

2:35am

There is Digital Ocean etc cheap providers

2:36am

and you can also run snap in any bare metal, KVM/XEN/HyperV/VirtualBox/VMware etc

2:36am

Upcloud, Hetzner, AWS, Azure

2:37am

Wekan runs on any laptop or desktop that has for example Ubuntu or Debian Linux installed

Paul Verdone@pvcon13

2:48am

I think snapd was and is excellent to handle a dev environment, even thought I am used manually scripting everything, adjusting everything carefully and then commiting those procedures to a devops strategy with aws, google, etc plugins to terraform. So I agree, BUT

2:49am

when wekan gets deployment in a production environment with hooks across servers sharing a mongo (a master slave system) there is not an easy path to doing that with Snap.

2:51am

So I for one would like a more precise external set of bash level controls that like every other system I create lets me handle security (like authentication to mongo) and load balancing of both wekan services and databases.

2:52am

So snap is great to build something easily and quickly. Then what happens?

Lauri Ojansivu@xet7

Team

2:56am

For bash level controls, you download bundle wekan-3.xx.zip that is for x86_64 from https://releases.wekan.team and install it similarly like RasPi bundle: https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/Raspberry-Pi

2:56am

and start it as service

2:57am

for that, only node + mongodb is required

2:57am

or actually,when you already have mongodb somewhere, only node

2:58am

that bundle does run on any server, also on those that have some kernel restrictions or OpenVZ

3:02am

For external mongodb, it mongodb requires login, you can add username and password and IP address etc to MONGO_URL

3:07am

It's also possible to use some part of bash autoupgrade script, if you need automatic upgrades https://github.com/wekan/wekan-bash-install-autoupgrade

3:07am

there is some regex to download newest bundle

3:08am

after downloading, unzip it, stop service, rename directories, start service

February 15, 2020 at 12:36pm

Paul Verdone@pvcon13

12:36pm

thank you for that detail

12:38pm

with those scripts we would be using mongo auth (unlike with the snap config where mongo is private (localhost) and with auth on mongo not enabled)?

February 15, 2020 at 2:10pm

Lauri Ojansivu@xet7